Nuclear power: We are the greatest civilian user of nuclear power, and we are ahead in fusion nuclear power. For military purposes, I do not want to get into that, but we have 6,000 to 7,000 nuclear weapons. China has 600 to 700.
With civil-militaryfusion, their roll-on, roll-off ferries, the use of civilian aircraft, they have enormous capabilities, an enormous lift already. It would be hard to argue they are not designing a military capable of that specific task.
For example, the civilmilitaryfusion that the Chinese regime mandates basically, right throughout its system.
Mr. Chaillan: Yes.
Mr. Jekielek: But let's go back to what's happening here in the U.S.
Jekielek: It's astounding, and it's actually a little even more complicated, I think, because of this academic-militaryfusion situation that's basically par for the course in China but very different in the West. Can you tell me about that?
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